Posts Tagged ‘Josh Lansdale’

The Anti-War Movement

Friday, October 19th, 2007

First, the article which is the genesis of this post is linked above. But the gist is that a guy left Americans Against Escalation in Iraq because they weren’t fighting the fight the way they wanted.

The leading Washington coalition for ending the war in Iraq has lost its highest-profile Iraq veteran. John Bruhns, a former Army sergeant who participated in the 2003 invasion, left his position as legislative representative of Americans Against Escalation in Iraq (AAEI) at the beginning of October. He had started in May, but quickly became frustrated with the group’s lack of legislative success as well as some of its tactics.

Standard disclaimer applies here. He felt a certain way, joined a group, lobbied for his beliefs. I applaud him on all of that. We may be on opposite sides of this, but the guy served honorably, and I thank him for that. Also, I am not so dogmatic that I think that what he is doing is wrong. The Constitution says we have a right to petition for a redress of grievances, and he is doing that. Bruhns supports the Constitution, and his service shows that, I just happen to disagree with him.

But that is not what is so interesting to me, this is:

In May, Bruhns joined AAEI, which includes MoveOn, the Service Employees International Union and VoteVets. He was hailed by anti-war legislators for his experience and willingness to speak out.

Well, actually that is also the set up. THIS is the part that brought me up way short:

Mack said AAEI has another Iraq veteran on staff, Josh Lansdale, who is in charge of outreach to veterans

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Why is that interesting? Well my friends, for that answer, you’ll need to step into the wayback machine with me. Here is Josh:

“Jim Talent doesn’t need to wait 6 months for an appointment, why should we?”

Good point Josh.

Describing his service in Iraq, Josh said this:

“It was a pretty hot zone. We took a lot of mortar fire, IEDs, car bombs, saw a lot of helicopter crashes and worked the UN embassy bombing. I dragged a lot of people out of burning buildings, cars, motorcycle wrecks and explosions.”

Only one problem:

I was the 1SG and Fire Chief for the unit. I also was AGR for the unit for 17 years. We were deployed in May of 03. We were stationed at Camp Anaconda Iraq. We arrived there on or about the 23rd of May and departed on or about the 21st of April 04.

There was one Helicopter tire that blew up on a couple soldiers and messed one up pretty bad and killed the other. There was also one motorcycle accident when a soldier hit a honey wagon (Porta Potty Cleaner) and his head was pretty swollen when we got there. Other than that, There was not one plane or helicopter that crashed on us during this period. None of us even got close to Baghdad or any Embassy buildings other than when we drove on the outskirts on our way to Balad (camp Anaconda).

Yes we had many nights of mortars come in but only a couple even got close to us at the fire station and that was right at the end. 95% that they fired at us either missed everything or were duds. None of my fire fighters that fought any fires dragged anyone out of a building. We had 2 of our own fire fighters go down because of heat problems while fighting fires, but that was it.

I am sure that Josh Lansdale saw a lot of things that you would not see in the states, however he is blowing this way WAY out of proportion. I had 3 other soldiers that came a lot closer than he ever could imagine to being killed. I would have to see his medical records, but I can not even remember him hurting his ankle. He may have sprained it at worse if even that…

And his claim about waiting 6 months for an appt?

“We see them within 30 days of their entry into our system,” said Jane Alley of the VA Medical Center.

Alley is a nurse and one of two people at the medical center who oversees new patients. Mahoney said it should be easy to check Lansdale’s claims if he would produce his appointment schedule.

Naturally, Josh refuses to come forward with that info.

He may not be a “phony soldier” in the sense he actually served there, but he’s phony in just about everything he’s said since he got back. I actually menationed this guy in my MSNBC interview. And what did VoteVets have to say about him? Well….nothing. Getting VoteVets off their prearranged message is like trying to get Rosie away from the buffet table.

Enough already. Seriously. You clowns couldn’t identify MacBeth as a phony, when it took the vast majority of us 3.2 seconds, and even with this guys tales of woe and battlefield prowess being taken out like a lone jihadi caught in an L shaped Ambush, they hire him as a full-timer.

Meanwhile, Kos takes pot shots at Hegseth. It’s ridiculous. The credibility of these guys is virtually non-existent, and losing Bruhns isn’t going to help them. Find some guys who served, who don’t engage in standard Ghengis Khan type hyperbole and then get back to me.

There is no shame in doing your job in a combat zone. It’s when you start to embelish your heroism that I start getting a case of the monkey arse.

h/t to Hotair for The Hill article, and to Michelle Malkin for several great posts on Lansdale.

Jon Stotz and VoteVets, they just can’t help but lie

Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007

This is pretty much the standard disengenuous ads that Stotz is famous for. I’m not really going to go through the entire litany again, but just for example, you might remember their “Body Armor” ads which

FactCheck.org deemed to be utter and complete [CIR].

After that, they decided to play in Missouri, where they ran ads with this guy Josh Lansdale who talked about the war, all the killing he saw, and how he couldn’t get service at the VA. Well, the guys in his unit knew he was full of it, and outted him for the phony he was. Undeterred, VoteVets just edited him out of the ad, now you see him, now you don’t.

So watch that video. Very, very strong. Calling Rush out for calling him a phony. Only Rush never did that, as has been proven. But repeat a lie often enough…..and Vote Vets and their overlords MoveOn.org will run with it. Apparently the second casualty of war, atleast around these guys, is the Truth.

I love that Wesley Clark runs these guys. Duty, Honor, Country. My aching arse. Explain to me what is honorable about running ads which are innacurate, putting forth people who are not who they say they are, and editing comments to fit your point of view rather than putting it all out there and letting the people decide.

On Edit: I also want to clarify something before what I say gets taken out of context. I do not believe that everyone opposed to the War is a phony veteran. I know Stoltz and others served there honorably and actually believe that the cause is lost. I know the six 82nd guys sincerely believed that as well. And I have never served in Iraq, which I freely admit. But on a daily basis I do communicate with people who are either there, or who have returned. And the doom and gloom that we see on TV is not matched by what those guys are telling me. I’ve also, as part of my job, come into contact with MANY wounded vets over at Walter Reed. And almost invariably they say the same thing, I just want to get patched up and back in the fight. I don’t know if the breakdown is 80%-20% in Favor (which is what I suspect) or if it is 50-50 or 80-20 against. I don’t know. But I do know the polls are ridiculous.

Let me ask this, if someone came to you in Oct of ’04 and asked if you wanted to go home from ‘stan, how many of us would have said “No, I’d like to stay here, eat crappy food, work 12 hour guard tower shifts, and crap through a hole in a plywood seat.”? I’m guessing there weren’t to many who wanted to stay. But that is significantly different that “Do you think what you are doing is good for the US Foreign Policy and National Security Situation” or “Do you think that the US is doing the right thing in ‘Stan.” On those questions, I’m guessing it would be over 90%.

But any realistic evaluation of the people on TV has to be startling in the numbers of phony veterans who are coming out in oppositioon to the war. I am unaware of Phony Vets who support the current policies. That doesn’t mean they aren’t out there, only I haven’t heard of any. Meanwhile, not 3 months can go by without a Ranger MacBeth or Pvt beauchamp crawling up from the gutters to make absurd statements.

Personally, I support what we are doing, think referring to a decorated military leader as “Betray Us” and taking the words of Boehner and Limbaugh out of context are are just wrong. I recognize that there are other opinions out there, and cast no aspersions on their service. But I wish the partisanship would just end and we could win the damn thing.

I would be remiss if I didn’t post this stuttering jackass that starts about 1/3 of the way in. Let me ask you this, does it take a full 5 seconds before you figured out this guy never served in the Rangers, or did you fall out of your chair laughing earlier?